Episode #19: Pain and Glory (with Kelsey Ford)

Our November episode comes a little late, but in the continuous spirit of “recovery,” Veronica and Chad are joined by writer, editor, and Powell’s Books managing editor Kelsey Ford to talk Pedro Almodóvar’s Dolor y Gloria (Pain and Glory). We get into the film’s “wildly tender” exploration of autobiography and artistic process, Almodóvar’s aspirational apartments, that for-old-times’-sake kiss, melodrama’s coincidences, being in the mood for moms, and wanting Penelope Cruz to make you a chocolate sandwich. Here’s Almodóvar talking about Pain and Glory at the BFI Southbank, here’s GQ’s 2019 profile discussing the film, here’s the film’s screenplay, and here’s Alex Jacob’s supercut of Alex Trebek saying “genre.”



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Pain and Glory official trailer: